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Four FICO Score Myths, Busted

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FICO scores have been around since 1989, but they weren’t thrust into the public’s eye until the mid 1990’s when Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac endorsed their use in the mortgage environment.  And by “endorsed” I mean, “forced.” 

Mortgage lenders had until the late 90’s to fully implement FICO scoring into their underwriting processes.  I was at FICO (FICO) when this happened and one of my jobs was to criss cross the country speaking at mortgage broker and banker events teaching these really angry people about the new tool that just got shoved down their throats.  Talk about being the least popular guy in the room.

This GSE “endorsement” also meant a whole lot of public scrutiny of a tool that had always remained a secret to consumers, albeit unintentionally.  I mean, if you don’t sell something directly to consumers then why would consumers know about it?  No, FICO’s entry into the mortgage market meant more press, more attention, more criticism, more work for me, and a whole lot of incorrect information being passed off as the truth.

So, here is a list of a few FICO score myths that I have run into over the past 12 years.  And, the subsequent debunking.  There are certainly many more, which I will address as time goes on.

FICO Scores Consider Income, Yes or No? 

The answer is NO.  The FICO scores that we’re all familiar with are credit bureau-based scoring models.  That means they only consider information on your credit reports.  And, guess what, your income is not on your credit reports.  There are models that consider income, as listed on your credit applications, but these are not the FICO scores that we all know and love.

John’s Final Thought: Income is a measurement of capacity (whether or not you can afford your payment) not creditworthiness (whether or not you’ll choose to make your payment.)

Closing a Credit Card Will Improve Your FICO Scores, Yes or No? 

The answer is NO.  This makes common sense, less available credit means you can’t get into as much credit card debt and therefore you’re a better credit risk. 

The problem with that hypothesis is that it’s incorrect.  And, thankfully, credit score development isn’t a common sense exercise.  The empirical evidence shows, and has shown for over two decades, that having a lot of “open to buy” (unused credit limits) equates to better credit risk.  This is commonly referred to as “revolving utilization”, the percentage of your credit limits that you’re currently using.  Closing cards can actually increase this utilization percentage and lower your scores.

There’s a secondary myth to this one that says keeping your utilization percentage at or below 30% is the best for your score.  That’s also incorrect.  Nothing magical happens at 30%.  It’s better than 40% but not as good as 20%.  In fact, according to FICO, consumers who have scores above 760 have an average utilization percentage of just 7%.

John’s Final Thought: Shoot for lowering your balances to $0 if you can but if you can’t, get them as low as you can and your FICO scores will benefit.  NOTE: This only applies to credit cards, not installment loans.    

Closing a Card Causes You to Lose the “Age” Benefit of That Account. 

This is incorrect.  One of the secondary factors in your FICO score is the average age of the accounts on your credit reports.  The older the average, the better for your scores.  There’s a myth that closing a credit card account will somehow remove that card from consideration in the average age calculation. 

Here’s the real deal: FICO scoring considers open and closed cards when determining the average age of your accounts.  Closing the card doesn’t remove it from your credit reports so it’s still going to be considered. 

John’s Final Thought: Be careful when deciding to close credit card accounts.  Re-read myth #2 above for the reason. 

Spreading Balances Across Multiple Cards Helps Your Scores. 

Incorrect. First off, there’s no hiding credit card debt by doing this.  $10,000 on one card is still the same amount as $1,000 on 10 cards.  The aggregate revolving utilization percentage (see #2 myth above) is that same either way so you gain nothing there.  But, what you have just done is to increase the number of accounts you have with a balance greater than $0, which is going to lower your scores.

John’s Final Thought: Stop trying to beat the system.  Do you think the folks at FICO are idiots?  Pay off your credit card debt, stop trying to shuffle it around.           

Keep your eyes open for episode #2 of FICO Mythbusters.  Coming soon to a Mint near you.

John Ulzheimer is the President of Consumer Education at SmartCredit.com, the credit blogger for Mint.com, and the author of the “credit history” definition on Wikipedia.  He is an expert on credit reporting, credit scoring and identity theft. Formerly of FICO, Equifax and Credit.com, John is the only recognized credit expert who actually comes from the credit industry.  He has served as a credit expert witness in more than 70 cases and has been qualified to testify in both Federal and State court on the topic of consumer credit.

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  1. Haggie

    FICO is designed to get you into as much debt as possible and keep you there as long as possible.

    I don’t care what my FICO score is. I have one credit card with no balance.

    • It is? Wow. That’s news to….everyone. I’m sure if you auto insurance rates went up because of your FICO score you’d start caring.

    • Red Fox

      A FICO score is only a calculation of your finances and how you have handled them (made late payments, have a high debt to credit ratio, maintained timely payments, etc.) How can a calculation have some sort of sinister agenda to enslave to country with financial burdens?

  2. Justin

    Hi John,

    Thanks for the insights!

    Scenario/question for you: I have 2 cards currently (both have 5-figure credit lines, one is 3+ years old, one is 11+ years old). I pay them off every month. My credit in general is very good.

    I’m unimpressed with the rewards programs on both and am considering opening another card with better rewards, and moving all (or the bulk) of my transactions to that one. What compelling reasons are there (if any) to *not* do this? How severe would the impact be to my score and creditworthiness, and how long would it take for those to recover after opening this line?

    I’d appreciate any guidance you can give. Thanks!

    • If your score is stable/good in general, the effect would be temporary, a few points for a few months I’d imagine. Lots of inquiries about new lines of credit hurt you, but one every now and then is fine. Having the extra credit limit would probably help (lowers utilization percentage overall if you aren’t charging more per month). I’ve found the best info in the helpful forums at the FICO site itself: http://ficoforums.myfico.com/

      I never really paid attention to my score but after reading there was able to understand it better. I found that my good habits paying off all cards each month were the right thing to do, but I learned a lot of other good tips as well. Unless you are applying for a mortgage or something else big, rolling along without messing with your credit too much seems to work fine! It’s the constant applying for loans and cards that seems to get ppl in trouble.

      I also live by my rewards cards!

    • Justin

      Amy,

      Thanks much for the advice & the FICO forums link!

  3. I’m in the same boat as Haggie and if my auto insurance company raised my rates b/c I don’t have a high enough score for them due to the fact that I pay off my 1 CC each month would loose my business.

  4. MINT user

    This article directly contradicts some others I’ve red on MINT and other places.

    Closing a Card Causes You to Lose the “Age” Benefit of That Account – incorrect… is it? I can understand FICO score looking at closed credit card accounts. But let’s say you had 1 credit card you opened 9 years ago and closed. FICO looks at last 10 years worth of data; does it mean it will lose track of that old closed credit card and reset your credit age?

    Spreading Balances Across Multiple Cards Helps Your Scores – incorrect… is it? When you pay off a credit card and carry a $0 balance, many institutions stop reporting it to the credit bureaus, it shows as “no data”. If there is no data on one of the cards it will not count the amount of credit available, thus reducing the total amount of credit available, and hurting overall utilization rate?

    • Then what you read in the other Mint article was incorrect. That’s the product of too many people writing about a topic that they, frankly, shouldn’t.

      And some of your comments are also incorrect. credit card issuers don’t, as general practice, stop reporting accounts to the bureaus because they’re paid off. You’re looking at B2C credit reports sold to consumers via websites, which are not 100% redundant with what the bureaus actually house and sell to lenders.

  5. John T.

    Checking the best rate for mortgage Should not affect your credit.
    If I fill out 10 application at 10 different banks , Why should it affect my score?
    It is just like checking prices at different stores and get penalized for it.
    RIDICULOUS.

    • John T. “Shopping” will not hurt your credit score. If you do multiple mortgage requests or auto loan requests, the system knows how to identify that, and it does not hurt your score.

      Easy day. Relax ;)

      ob81

    • ob81 – it sort of depends. If there are a number of queries over a short period of time it understands that you’re shopping & more or less treats it as one. But if you’re doing this over an extended period of time, every month, applying for things that will run credit checks, then at some point, a high number of credit queries will have a negative effect on your score.

    • You can add student loan inquiries to the list. I’ll write about this inquiry issue soon. It’s not as clean as you think. Timing is important.

  6. Michael E

    John,

    Do you have any insight as to what is the logical link between FICO score and auto claims risk?

    I used to sell insurance, but I never understood the logic of the underwriters with respect to the idea that low FICO implies high risk and high FICO implies low risk. Perhaps you could have one of the other Mint.com writers address this if it is outside of your area of expertise.

    Thanks,

    ME

    • It’s not a “logical” link, it’s empirical. Credit scores have a correlation to not only insurance claims but also insurance customer profitability. I’ve seen FICO score, CP Attract score and custom insurance score validations and, across the board, they work…and work very well.

      Asking why is no different than asking why credit scores link to credit performance. They just do. Credit is easier to hypothesize.

      And to further piss everyone off, insurance scoring models are totally counter-intuitive to credit risk scoring models. What makes for a good credit risk score can also lead to a lower insurance risk score. I can’t get specific because I’d be crossing any number of lines that I can’t cross but let’s just say that you can’t win both the credit risk game and the insurance risk game.

  7. Thomas

    I wonder if John would admit or even knows that you can force the Credit
    Bureaus to remove any and all negative credit items from your report even if
    they are valid negative credit items?