Credit-Score Urban Legends – Busted!

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When Jeannine Pesce, a 37-year-old mom from Manahawkin, New Jersey, decided to quit her job and go back to school to become a nurse, she was sure it was a smart move toward a more secure future. But she’s planning to buy a home in 2010 and is worried her lack of income will drag down her credit score.
“This is a common myth I think a lot of folks assume is true,” says Curtis Arnold, founder of CardRatings.com and co-author of The Complete Idiot’s Guide to Person-to-Person Lending. “Income might affect your ability to get a loan (depending on the creditor), but it legally should never affect your credit score, either positively or negatively.” When computing your credit score, credit bureaus only look at items such as your payment history and how much debt you owe; personal information like your gender, age, and location can’t legally be considered. And while residing in a famous zip code like 90210 may be fun, says Arnold, it won’t improve your credit.
These days, many of us are doing some serious head scratching when it comes to credit scores, partly because there is a lot of false information swirling around. How can you move forward with your financial life if you’re muddled with misconceptions? Read on as seven more myths are debunked, leaving you with the “real deal” credit information you need when purchasing a home or taking out an auto loan.
Myth 1: Checking your credit will lower your score.
Checking your credit report will never affect your score, says Arnold. Thanks to the Fair Credit Reporting Act, you’re entitled to one copy of your credit report a year from each of the three major credit bureaus. Arnold says you can order them as many times as you want (by paying for subsequent reports) and it still won’t adversely affect your score. If you do apply for credit by filling out an application, though, your score might be slightly pinged.
Myth 2: Shopping around for a loan will hurt your credit score.
Not anymore. In 1999, the scoring model was changed so that consumers wouldn’t be penalized for comparing rates within a 30-day window, says Heather Wagenhals, author of the Unlock Your Wealth crisis management and financial wellness series. However, if you shop for a credit card one day, a boat loan the next, and a mortgage the day after that, the underwriter may wonder whether you were denied or if the loan hasn’t hit your report yet.
Myth 3: If you don’t use your credit card account, you’ll lose your credit line.
As a credit fraud measure, your lender may stop reporting your trade line for lack of activity, says Wagenhals. “Your scoring is based in part by open and active trade lines,” she says. “Thirty percent of your score is based on timely payments. If there is no payment due, you may be missing out on a possible one-third of your credit score.” According to Wagenhals, it’s much better to charge your credit cards up to the amount you can comfortably pay off each month and rotate cards to keep them all open and active.
Myth 4: If you co-sign on a loan, your credit score is not affected.
According to Patrick Ritchie, author of The Credit Road Map, when you co-sign on a loan, you are equally liable (along with the primary borrower) to repay it. This debt will appear on your credit report and will have the same ramifications as if it were your debt exclusively. “Consider the payment ramifications,” says Ritchie. “If you have co-signed for someone and he or she is 30 days late on the payment, it will hurt both of your credit scores. In the case of co-signing on credit card, they may pay on time, but if the card is maxed out, the impact on both credit scores can be dramatic.”
Myth 5: It’s impossible (and takes forever) to dispute information on my credit file.
By law, the credit bureaus have only 30 days to complete an investigation on your credit file – all you have to do is request it, says Gregory B. Meyer, community relations manager at Meriwest Credit Union in San Jose, California. “If they cannot determine the validity or accuracy of an item or if it was determined to be out-of-date/expired, it is supposed to be removed from your credit report,” he says. When you mail your investigation request to the credit bureau, Meyer adds, you must mail copies of the request to the creditor as well.
Myth 6: After saying “I do,” your credit scores are married, too.
It’s a common misconception that credit scores are united in marriage, says Ken Lin, CEO of Credit Karma, a credit-score management service based in San Francisco. While you may share financial obligations in marriage, your credit scores will remain separate.
However, your spouse’s credit habits can affect your credit score, specifically activities like paying bills on time. “If your spouse has had credit problems in the past, make sure he or she is committed to a healthy credit future before you agree to co-signing or opening a joint credit account.”
Myth 7: Turning to a credit-counseling service will hurt your score.
“Credit counseling by itself most definitely does not hurt your credit score,” says Ken Clark, certified financial planner and author of The Complete Idiot’s Guide to Getting Out of Debt. “There is no place to report such a thing on the actual credit report, which is the basis for your credit score.”
According to Clark, this myth surfaces because of people who end up working with for-profit debt settlement agencies that deceptively market themselves as “credit counseling.” When these organizations negotiate a repayment plan or debt settlement on your behalf, says Clark, this can cause a drop in your credit score, since it is a further demonstration that you were unable to handle your use of debt wisely.
Credit-Score Urban Legends – Busted! is provided by Experian.com
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leave a commentStrange, because Myth # 3 DID happen to me. I had a card that I used, paid off, then didn’t use again for some time. I received a letter in the mail from the lender that said exactly what your “Myth” says doesn’t happen: Due to lack of activity, we are closing your account.
I was never late on any payments, I have a good credit score, they closed it because “If you don’t use your credit card account, you’ll lose your credit line.”
Glad to know that you know what you’re talking about here at mint
the piece does not say that your LENDER could not close it, it said the your credit score would not be effected negatively by inactivity, the myth #3 did not happen in your case. the shady things creditors and lenders do had nothing to do with this article it was simply about credit score.
How about this.. credit is one big myth? I don’t need it. I’ll buy my house cash, otherwise I can’t afford it. Real estate investing is easy in boom times, but buying anything that is 500k on margin is called over-leveraged.
This is the most ridiculous comment. Purchasing your home in cash? Financing a portion of your home is smart, and doing the opposite is also stupid.
Unless you are independently wealthy, and can afford to purchase a home without causing your personal asset base to be over 30% tied into real estate, then buying in cash would result in an un-diversified personal portfolio, and put you more at risk.
“buying anything that is 500k on margin is called over-leveraged” – this doesn’t make any sense unless you know how much of the purchase is actually leveraged. If your down payment is $0, then I agree.
My brother tells me I should buy a car and make monthly payments so that I can build up a good credit history. I’m single and I have plenty of money–no need to get a loan for anything.
Should I follow his advice and get a loan so I can get a better score?
Your score will actually drop when you receive your loan because you now have a large debt on your credit report. But if you make your payments on time and pay off the loan fully then your score will go up.
It seems that an outstanding credit history is only good to receive a loan because the banks will rape you on the interest rates. Bank of America and Chase and all other banks in the U.S. are increasing credit card interest rates to 23% to customers with excellent credit for no reason at all. I could get a better interest rate from a loan shark.
The biggest purchase you will make in your life is a house. So if you are single; I would advise you to move back in with your parents and put away $1,500 every month in your savings account. That $1,500 is a monthly house payment, or mine at least. After 5 years you will have $90,000 saved up, 10 years $180,000.
It will take you 30 years to pay off $180,000 if you get the loan form a bank. In those 30 years you will pay an additional $260,000 to interest.
Loan $180,000 + Interest $260,000 = $540,000.
Thats a lot of loot.
Thanks for the great list. I have great credit score (806 last year according to Bank of America doing a soft check) and I stopped using one of my oldest lines of credits last year. I will get a free credit report this year and see if my score went down due to me not using that credit line. I dont think it will change but I guess just in case I will charge a little bit that to that card, especially since its Discover and they are offering 5% cashback on supermarket purchases.
Re: Myth 2: It is my understanding that your credit score will drop slightly for the first inquiry for a loan or creditor. The new rules you refer to do allow for three additional inquiries at no additional credit score drop in a 30 day period. This allows you to shop around (for a car or mortgage for example) without being penalized. Prior to the 1999 change a consumer’s credit score dropped each time there was another inquiry.
Also: the four allowed inquiries at the cost of one score reduction only applies for the same type of inquiry – if you have an inquiry for a car and then have another one for a credit card there will be two different score reductions.
Two of these entries are misleading. Scott’s point on “Myth 3″ is correct- inactivity can lead to the elimination of lines of credit, and will likely with increasing frequency subsequent to the CARD Act.
“Myth 7″ is correct in pointing out the credit counseling services do not negatively impact credit scores. However, Mr. Clark is entirely incorrect in saying,
“There is no place to report such a thing on the actual credit report, which is the basis for your credit score.”
He is wrong on both points- a consumer credit counseling mark can certainly reflect on a credit report, and therefore is visible to potential employers, landlords, and lenders. On Canadian credit reports, it reflects as an R7 code, the same as debt settlement. On US credit reports, it is at the discretion of the reporting agency whether to reflect a consumer credit counseling mark on the report. Moreover, credit scores are generated by several factors that are not reflected on all credit report.
(Mint is a great site. Please keep up the standards that attracted us as an audience.)
Keeping credit score pure its not that easy..
Scott-yes, they can close your card for non-use. It happened to me too. The problem is that two years from now the history from that card will drop from your credit report and disappear forever, lowering your score. Getting another credit card to replace it is a prudent way to maintain your score. Use the card at least once a year to keep it active.
Nate-Yes, it is a good idea to take out a car loan to build credit. Pay cash for most of it and take out a small loan for 2 years. Pay it off early after a year if you want. That will be very helpful in establishing your personal credit score.
Nate: No, don’t get a car loan to establish credit. The amount you’ll pay in interest is too much to make it worth it.
Instead, get a credit card, and use it to pay one bill a month – say your $40 cable bill. Then set up your bank’s bill pay service to pay the credit card $40 every month. Voila! Credit established, and no interest paid. Repeat with a couple more card/bill combos to improve the effect, and lock the credit cards away in a drawer somewhere so you’re not tempted to put anything else on them.
not necessarily, he could also get a loan and pay significantly over the monthly payments (because like his comment said he has suffiencent funds to cover a car purchase) and pay it off in no time and car loans are a 3 star on your credit report, credit cards are just a 2 star, meaning the car loan has more VALUE
My wife and I both had inactive credit cards with Chase that were both cancelled for no reason. I called them up and asked why and they said because they weren’t in use – validating myth #3. That happens all the time. Also it’s funny how both my wife and I had our credit cards cancelled at the exact same time…
They cut credit limits on inactive cards as well. I had a Wells Fargo card with a 25k credit limit that was cut to 2k because I hadn’t used it in a year. SO yeah, you gotta use your credit card to keep it open.
What a great article. I am in the process of improving my credit score and while it has dramatically changed, I am afraid to apply for anything. It is nice to know that if I did apply for a loan, I would be able to check and compare rates for different companies.
Scott – Myth #3 is that OTHER cards will cut your credit line based on your score. The specific card you have that is inactive CAN be cut, as they’re making no profit on you.
Nate,
If you have plenty of cash, there’s no need to improve your credit score. Credit scores only matter if you need to borrow money. Also just paying your utilities and other bills on time can raise your score.
My fiance has never had a credit card, but just paid all her bills/utilities on time. During college I thought it would be great to get a head start on my credit score with a few credit cards, I paid them all on time etc. etc. (Of course I paid hundreds in interest during times when emergencies happened and I could only pay the minimum.) Turns out my fiance’s score is 760, while mine is 745. But now we’re credit card free and excited to start our marriage debt free.
Keep saving your cash and stay away from loans if you don’t need them.
Anyone else find it interesting that this article is provided by experian??
One of the big lies in the current deluge of Free Credit Reporting is that you will get a credit score. What theya re really giving you is Their credit score. This is not the same credit score that banks and lenders use. They use the the credit score called FICO from Fair Issacs. This credit score costs about $25.00 for each request.
Lots of credit tracking comaines want their credit scores to be influential in the lending market so that they too can charge money for it. But each credit traking company has different standards and sources for their score. The FICO score has been used for decades and is biased towards scoring you well if you have lots of debt and poorly if you have no debt. Your ability to pay is not really considered. They want a long continuous payment history. In other words you have to pay for a long time to get them to score you well for credit.
And while large companies almost never suffer from poor credit practices, your FICO score and credit rating agencies can hold small infractions against you for 7-10 years. The myth about 3-5 years almost never holds true.
Myth #3
It happened to me about two weeks ago with Citi. I got the card in college when they gave you a free pizza if you filled out a form for a credit card. I used it a few times and always paid it off every month. Since I started my career, I haven’t had a need to us it and I got a letter saying that it was being closed.
You went to LSU don’t you? You filled out the card while waiting in line at Mr Gatti’s, just off campus, and got back a Citi MTVu card, right? In fact, I think we may actually know each other. Anyway, thankfully even at the young age you probably got it, you were smart with the card. This ploy was being used by employees on certain lenders during a competitive internship, and obviously worked well, as at one point I heard them say that they had over 1000 applications (they got me too). Anyway, enough nostalgia. The myth was supposed to be based on how this factor wont affect the credit score, but they must have gotten lost in their own talking, cause they basically confirmed that the company would cut your credit line while saying that not having them report activity would cut out a third of your credit score. So, not only will my credit score be negatively impacted, but it will also be revoked. Nice to know.
I’ll definitely remember these tips when I finally get a job and start saving money again!
Thanks Mint.com
You are very wrong on a ton of things. Horrible advise