Update: Expenses Management & The Debt That Wouldn’t Go Away
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Mint’s Note: Below is the follow-up we received from the Tuesday Train Wreck posted a month ago, entitled The Debt That Wouldn’t Go Away. In this story, the submitter faced a difficult business situation, in which he made the mistake to use his payroll tax withholding account to fund the continual operation of his business, and eventually failed to meet his obligation to the federal and state government. The real problem began when the submitter avoided the problem altogether — and the debt, of course, kept growing as no one was around to address it.
So, follow-up:
I’m going to spend the next three years paying off my online expenses to the feds if my current income level and current level of consulting work stays even. This is the equivalent to the amount of time I would spend completely paying off a small condo built locally had I practiced proper expenses management. Since hindsight’s 20/20, and I’ve been working through the events of the past three years with friends and family, here’s what I did right and wrong to land on my feet after literally losing everything:
* Right: I moved to an area of the country that has a very low cost of living, and a relatively high percentage of your income in take-home pay. Texas has no state income tax, and the sales tax is waived under certain situations — fresh food (processed and prepared foods are taxed), certain services, and one day a year, clothes. Since I cook at home most of the time, money spent on my food and all of the money I’m repaying in debt is only taxed at the federal level.
* Wrong: Having a significant other that enabled me to ignore my responsibilities. I was dating a very needy woman that required a lot of my attention and time, and gave me “permission” to ignore my responsibilities to the feds.
Right: I got good insurance. Sure, I’m paying $10 more per month than I otherwise would, but since I hit my deductible this year, I’m definitely saving money. I also insured my car and my dog at a higher level, both of which have paid off even though they take money off my bottom line on a monthly basis. When you’re heavily in debt, you need to be incredibly risk-adverse with your money. Insurance is a great way to avoid risks that could otherwise land you in a large amount of debt.
Wrong: From experience, I’ve learned to manage my life by the numbers and proper expenses management, not by ‘feel’. Have a spouse or friend quiz you: You should know what’s in your daily-use bank accounts at all times, down to the penny. If they ask you and you don’t, you have to contribute whatever your overdraft fee is (mine’s $30) to your savings account.
* Right: I have different bank accounts for different things. I have a checking account into which I deposit all of my money. I have a checking account for bill payments. I have a savings account that my monthly cash goes into. I have another savings account that’s my emergency fund. I have a high-interest Internet banking savings account at HSBC that contains my savings-for-projects. Accounts are cheap. Managing multiple accounts is easy thanks to Internet banking, and this way you automatically know how your money needs to be partitioned. Overdrafts are NOT cheap.
* Wrong: I didn’t get and pay for a professional to help me sort this out. Lawyers, Registered Agents, and CPAs generally save you money in the long term.
* Right: I got a job that allowed me to freelance at night. I turned down a high-pressure job that would’ve paid me approximately $10,000 per year more before taxes, but would’ve required that I spend 80-100 hours per week in the office slaving away. I make more than that, and have more free time, consulting.
* Wrong: I didn’t listen to my parents’ advice, and gave them dishonest answers about how the business was doing. Your parents’ purpose is to help counsel you around mistakes and provide their experience (and THEIR parents’ experience) for you to build upon. I learned the value of age, experience, and wisdom — and it was quite a humbling experience.
* Right: I realized that it was too depressing to deal with the paperwork, so I hired someone to deal with it for me. For $12 per hour, a coworker organized my entire life and kept it organized. It cost me $100 to get everything set up with her, and then for $24 a month, she manages my consulting invoices, figures out what checks I need to write to pay bills, and makes sure that all of my bills are filed. That’s less than one overdraft or late bill payment fee a month.
* Wrong: I financed the business’s startup with credit cards, and never got ahead again on them either through paying or reimbursing myself.
And last but not least,
* Right: I didn’t screw up as badly as Casey Serin did.
Mint’s Note: We doubt most people can top Casey Serin’s financial train wreck.
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6 Comments so far
leave a comment“I’m going to spend the next three years paying off my debt to the feds ”
“I financed the business’s startup with credit cards”
I’m confused do you owe the IRS or the credit card companies?
And why do you need to pay someone $24 a month, just to write checks and file your bills? you can do that yourself.
HA! Good point on that last “right.” That’s a superb way to stay positive!
@Moneymonk – He/She owes the IRS, since the payroll tax withholding account was used to, I’m assuming, either pay off the credit cards he used to fund his business or to use to continue funding his business. But I would assume he/she probably still has a couple cards to continue paying off, but not as large as what is owed to the feds.
And $24/mo is an extremely small price to pay to avoid seriously depressing work that can easily throw you into another downward spiral. Having the ABILITY to do something yourself and having the WILL to do something yourself and two completely different things.
@Moneymonk: Woops, my fault there. Forgot to link back to the previous story. But yeah basically he owes both the feds and the credit card company, as he continues to use the card to finance the business’s operation (I’m assuming a bit there too).
And as Elissa mentioned, $24 a month isn’t too bad if it really can help him focus on other things such as generating income and paying off his debt, especially if it helps him avoid missing his financial obligations. I personally prefer to take care of my own paperwork, but I can see how having numerous types of invoices and various bills flying around (consulting is fun that way, I believe) can be quite a headache for some people.
Glad to hear the reader is taking steps to fix his train wreck. That’s always the first part in making things better.
I agree that $24 dollars is very cheap if you think of the potential cost savings.
One of your rights was having multiple bank accounts (with different bank institutions). I’m not sure if it makes sense for you but maybe you can save some money if you opened one high yield bank accounts that lets you do bill pay and use a spreadsheet to divide your money up. That way, you get more interest.
You also mentioned that overdraft fees are expensive. I think that having too many bank accounts actually increases your chances of paying for overdraft fees since you have less in each basket to draw from and can’t use another bank accounts funds to cover if you accidentally made a mistake.
The submitter has sent me his follow-up to the comments:
I owe money to the feds (payroll withholding taxes, which are held “in trust” and cannot be written off during a bankruptcy), plus the credit cards that were used to start the business are slowly being
paid off. The interest rate on both accounts is equal — and equally appallingly high. I used the withholding account money to close the business (breaking various contracts and leases), not knowing at the time that it would boomerang on me this way. When I did figure it out, I stuck my head in the sand and didn’t deal with it.
$24 is half of what I charge per hour to a client. Organizing my own invoices and bills during the month took me approximately 4-5 hours, whereas it takes her two — and she has experience working for a tax preparer, so she organizes everything to take to my CPA, drops off my dry cleaning on her way home, and makes sure I invoice and receive payments on time. I could do it all myself, but look at the math … 4-5 hours at $50/hr, or 2 hours at $12/hr? I wouldn’t suggest this approach to a salaried person, but it’s worth it in my case (since I’m paid hourly while consulting) to have her do these tasks that I fear and hate. And as Yoda says, “Fear is the path of the dark side. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.” $24 is a low amount to pay to not suffer.
Cap’s note: Gotta love the quote from Yoda.